Lauren and Sarah took a time out to interview David Zahl, the director of Mockingbird Ministries. He is also the author of “A mess of Help: From the Crucified Soul of Rock and Roll” and co-author of “Law and Gospel: A Theology for Sinners (and Saints)”. We chatted with David about his background, where Mockingbird began, the upcoming conference, and male emotions.

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